Parliamentary Parties Panel minutes: 5 December 2017
Who was at the meeting
Conservative Party:
- Andrew Stedman (AS)
- Megan Tucker (MT)
Labour:
- John Stolliday (JS)
- Jordan Hall (JH)
Liberal Democrats:
- David Allworthy (DA)
- Darren Briddock (DB)
Scottish National Party:
- Scott Martin (SM)
Electoral Commission:
- Craig Westwood, Director of Communications & Research (CW)
- Ailsa Irvine, Director of Electoral Administration and Guidance (AI)
- Bob Posner, Director of Political Finance and Regulation & Legal Counsel (BP)
- Carol Sweetenham, Head of Guidance and Strategy, (CS)
- Alasdair Morgan, Electoral Commissioner (AM)
- Cary Mitchell, Communications Officer (CM)
Minutes of the last meeting and actions arising (ECPPP 04/07/2017)
DA suggested as Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) was unable to attend as per action agreed at last meeting, the Panel would set up a separate meeting with the ICO as soon as possible. BP agreed a representative of the Electoral Commission should attend and thanked the Panel for their invite.
AS asked that the minutes be amended to show the action on post-election regulation assurance meetings with parties is incomplete or ongoing. Meetings had been arranged but later cancelled and as a result the parties had not received the expected guidance. DA said the content of the questions they received covered unexpected areas which meant involving members of staff from other teams in the party.
BP apologised for any confusion or inconvenience caused and said that as a new process the format is still being worked out and the Commission appreciates any feedback. DB pointed out there is no longer enough time to meet with the Commission. BP confirmed the original intent agreed at previous meetings for the process remains the same but the approach has evolved.
The minutes from 21/02/2017 were agreed subject to amendments.
Delivering modern guidance project
DA asked for an update on the delivering modern guidance project.
AI explained that decisions would be taken early in the New Year about moving to web-based digital guidance. AI thanked members of the Panel for taking part in one-to-one discussions and providing feedback to the project team. JS thanked AI and CS for holding productive discussions on the process, and DA agreed. All sides were keen to continue constructive engagement.
PFR Online update
CS reported that the Commission had received six good quality bids in the procurement process through the Government’s digital market place to update the PFR Online system. The Commission would shortlist later that week before moving to the second stage of procurement. CS offered to send the Panel copies of draft headline requirements for the second stage of the procurement process, and would be keen to receive any feedback the Panel may have. The Commission was planning to have a supplier in place by the end of March 2018.
AS said he would be happy to look at the draft and he was pleased with the Commission’s approach so far. DB agreed the conversations had with the project team have been useful. CS said she was grateful for the input to the initial requirements gathering.
DB asked whether sprints would be weekly or on some other basis. CS said the suppliers would set out their proposed process; her preferred approach was for fortnightly sprints. AS and DB agreed.
Both sides agreed on the need for constructive engagement with the project through the user group.
Standing for office in 2017 report
CW introduced findings of the report, highlighting that some of the recommendations around the demographics of candidates and the need to make sure elections are open to all would affect parties. CW asked whether any issues raised surprised the Panel and whether they had anything they wished to take forward. BP said recommendations in the report are challenging to take forward but that it is important to find a way to improve on these issues.
DA raised the intimidation of candidates and noted that prior to the June 2017 general election the focus was on the potential for physical attacks after the murder of Jo Cox, while the focus now seems to be on social media harassment. DB agreed that candidates were more likely to be harassed on Twitter than face physical violence.
JS suggested the next SPOC conference could cover intimidation. DA agreed, saying usual focus at the conferences is on electoral offences rather than civil offenses that occur in relation to elections but not usually counted as ‘electoral’.
DB said it was particularly useful that the report recommended allowing all candidates to keep home addresses private as current requirement at some elections to make addresses public deters people from standing. BP reminded the Panel that some of the recommendations would require legislation.
Election integrity preparation for elections in 2018
AI reminded the Panel that May 2018 will see local elections across parts of England, including a series of pilots looking at voter ID and postal voting. Ahead of these elections, the Commission is looking at electoral fraud as part of its risk assessment work, taking into account available data and information which may indicate a higher risk of fraud – for example, the closeness of the contest and past allegations of fraud. AI said this work will help identify areas where closer liaison with Returning Officers (ROs) is needed. AI also indicated that the Commission is keen to be able to escalate local issues to the national parties where needed as has been the case at recent elections, and proposed discussing any electoral fraud concerns or issues in more detail in the New Year with the Panel, either collectively or individually.
DB said guidance for ROs on running postal vote counts should be updated. He said in many areas postal vote agents from the parties are kept so far away from the counting and scanning of ballot packs that they cannot do their job of confirming that the process is being conducted correctly. AI suggested a reminder could be sent to ROs through the Commission’s Electoral Administration Bulletin about the role party agents have in the process.
DB suggested that agents being kept away from the process increases a perception that fraud is or could be occurring, while pointing out that the perception of fraud is worse than the actual number incidents of fraud. AI requested that parties contact the Commission at the point any issues arise so that follow up with local authorities can be carried out in a timely way.
DB asked for a list of the areas involved in pilots in May so local campaigners can be informed and local campaign material can also include information for voters on what to expect. AI responded that Gosport, Bromley, Woking and Watford have been announced as taking part in voter ID pilots and Tower Hamlets is expected to host a postal voting pilot but Cabinet Office is best placed to provide further information
Recent investigation announcements
DA asked for an update on recent investigations and whether the outcomes could result in recommendations for changes in the rules.
BP reminded the Panel that it was inappropriate for the Commission to comment on ongoing investigations. He noted the work being undertaken will influence the Commission’s thinking going forward and if a decision is made that rules should be changed as a result the Panel’s views would be important.
JS raised social media campaigning and its important role as a communication and campaigning tool. BP responded that campaigning is an important part of our democracy and should continue on social media. He said the Commission will work with the Panel on this issue as thinking evolves and that it is important to remember the ICO’s role in digital campaigning regulation.
AS asked whether the Commission expects to conclude its investigations by the middle of 2018. BP said the time taken to conclude investigations cannot be predicted but the Commission will gain experience through ongoing regulatory work and may have recommendations based on that experience next year.
SM asked about working together rules for referendums and whether there were plans to clarify or reform them. BP suggested it may be that Parliament needs to clarify the rules in legislation.
SM asked whether the Commission would be responding to the UCL Commission on Referendums. BP explained that the Commission is in contact with them and would be providing them with reference information.
Commission update report
DA asked about the Plymouth election report and AS asked whether the Commission has done work to assess the resourcing of ROs and EROs. AI said there is clearly a challenge in this area, with experienced people leaving elections along with a general pressure on local authority resources, and the Commission is starting a piece of work with SOLACE and the AEA looking at how to address this risk.
DA raised the elections for everyone report. AI said the Commission is particularly proud of the work in this area, drawing on the actual experiences of voters with disabilities. Before the June election there was a lot of interest in accessibility of elections and it was right that the report looked at it in detail.
DA raised the PFR report and agreed it is an anomaly the Commission has powers to regulate party finance but not candidates’ which is for the police.
Any other business
The Panel agreed the next meeting would be held on 20 February 2018, chaired by the Conservatives. Subsequent meetings in 2018 will be on Tuesday 5 June 2018 (SNP chair); Tuesday 4 September 2018 (Labour chair); Tuesday 4 December 2018 (Lib Dems chair).
SM asked for a list of future publication dates for PFR reporting.
Actions
Action | Owner | Status |
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Circulate draft 2nd stage procurement requirements document. | CS | Complete |
Add intimidation of candidates to next SPOC conference. | BP |
Complete SPOC seminar 9 February 2018 |
Electoral Administration Bulletin reminder for ROs about the role of party agents at postal vote counts. | AI |
Complete Included on forward plan to go out closer to the polls |
Circulate a list of PFR publication dates. | BP | Complete |